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The Daily Signal
6 Key Exchanges
From Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi Testimony
Melissa Quinn
October 22, 2015
In a much-anticipated hearing, former Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton appeared Thursday before a panel of lawmakers tasked with
investigating the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya.
Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time of the attacks and
resigned five months after, testified before the House Select Committee
on Benghazi in an 11-hour hearing—the fourth public hearing since the
committee’s inception in May 2014.
For the last 17 months, the committee has been conducting an
investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. consulate in
Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including U.S.
Ambassador Chris Stevens.
The committee has conducted 54 interviews with a number of
administration officials, as well as those who worked closely with
Clinton, including Huma Abedin, her closest aide, and Cheryl Mills,
Clinton’s former chief of staff.
In speaking with reporters after the marathon hearing, Rep. Trey Gowdy,
R-S.C., who chairs the panel, said he wasn’t sure Clinton revealed
information that hadn’t been volunteered in past hearings. However, in
the months since the committee was formed, lawmakers have learned that
the former secretary of state and senator from New York operated a
private email server from her home and used a private email address to
conduct official business.
Additionally, responding to a request from the Select Committee on
Benghazi, the State Department released more than 7,000 pages of emails
from Stevens this month. The committee’s request was the first time a
congressional panel investigating the attacks has asked the State
Department for his messages.
Still, Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., the committee’s ranking member,
said the committee has not uncovered any new information that the
Accountability Review Board hadn’t learned in its own independent
review and criticized Republicans for spending $4.8 million on the
committee’s efforts.
“It is time now for the Republicans to end this taxpayer-funded fishing
expedition,” he said. “We need to come together and shift from politics
to policy. That’s what the American people want, shifting from politics
to policy.”
It was a point his Democratic colleagues agreed with.
“The reality is that we’ve had eight investigations, we’ve gone through
this endlessly,” Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said. “The reality is that
after 17 months, we have nothing new to tell the families. We have
nothing new to tell the American people.”
Here are the top six moments from Clinton’s testimony.
1) As demonstrated by Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Ind., Clinton sent far fewer
emails regarding events in Libya in 2012 than she did in 2011.
According to Brooks, this demonstrated a diminished interest in the
climate in Libya during the year Stevens was murdered.
In 2011, Clinton sent approximately 800 emails pertaining to Libya,
compared to just 67 sent in 2012.
Clinton, in responding to Brooks’ line of questioning, said she
conducted the bulk of her work offline, participating in meeting at the
White House, taking phone calls to learn of events taking place in the
country in 2012, and reading memos that contained classified
information.
“There were a lot of things that happened that I was aware of and that
I was reacting to,” Clinton said. “If you were to be in my office in
the State Department, I didn’t have a computer, I did not do the vast
majority of my work on email.”
2) Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kan., analyzed the number of security requests
Stevens made in 2012 and found there to be more than 600. However, as
discussed in an exchange between Pompeo and Clinton, none of his
requests landed on Clinton’s desk.
By contrast, Pompeo pointed out, more than 180 emails sent by Sidney
Blumenthal, Clinton’s close personal friend, to the former secretary of
state, were sent directly to Clinton’s personal email address.
Clinton previously told Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., that Stevens did
not have her email address, though he, too, was a friend.
“With respect to security, [Stevens] took the requests where they
belong,” Clinton said of Stevens’ security requests going to the
appropriate people within the State Department.
3) In the same line of questioning, Pompeo questioned why no officials
at the State Department involved in the decision-making in Libya were
held accountable for the security failures there.
Though the Accountability Review Board, which conducted its own
independent investigation into the attacks, identified State Department
employees who did not “carry out their responsibilities adequately,” it
also found that there was no “breach of duty,” Clinton said.
“It is my position that in the absence of finding dereliction or breach
of duty, there could not be immediate action taken, but there was a
process immediately instituted and which led to decisions being made,”
Clinton said.
Pompeo, though, noted that State Department employees received back pay
and were kept on the payroll.
“The folks in Kansas don’t think that is accountability,” he said.
4. In a tense exchange between Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and Clinton, he
displayed emails recovered from Clinton’s personal account showing she
was aware that the attacks on both the consulate and CIA annex were,
indeed, terrorist attacks.
In a message exchanged with her family, Clinton said those killed were
murdered by members of al-Qaeda.
Clinton and other members of the Obama administration, though,
initially said the attacks were in response to an anti-Islam YouTube
video.
“You tell the American people one thing,” Jordan said. “You tell your
family an entirely different story.”
Additionally, Jordan also read emails from Clinton that reveal she also
told the Egyptian prime minister that the attacks were not a reaction
to the YouTube video.
“We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film,” Jordan
read. “It was a planned attack. Not a protest.’”
In response, Clinton admitted that she was responding to others who
tried to justify the attacks as a reaction to the video and noted that
events were occurring very quickly.
“Well, Congressman, there was a lot of conflicting information that we
were trying to make sense of,” Clinton said. “The situation was very
fluid. It was fast-moving.”
5. During both his first and second rounds of questioning, Rep. Peter
Roskam, R-Ill., discussed Clinton’s role in the U.S.’ decision to
intervene in Libya.
Roskam read through a series of emails Clinton exchanged with
Blumenthal, in which he encouraged Clinton to appear before cameras and
in interviews to discuss Libya’s political transition.
Calling the plan the “Clinton Doctrine,” Roskam also cited a Washington
Post article discussing Clinton’s role.
“Let me tell you what I think the Clinton doctrine is,” he said. “I
think it’s where an opportunity is seized to turn progress in Libya
into a political win for Hillary Rodham Clinton.”
Clinton, though, stressed repeatedly that it was ultimately President
Obama who made the decision to intervene and wanted credit to be given
to those who crafted the policy on Libya.
Responding to Roskam’s line of questioning, Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash.,
chided his Republican colleague for addressing what he said was an
irrelevant issue.
“Mr. Roskam’s questions, I found to be the most interesting, basically,
I don’t know, it was like he was running for president,” Smith said.
“He wanted to debate you on overall Libya policy and why we got in
there in the first place. And that’s debatable, and I think you will
argue that quite well, but it’s not about the attack on Benghazi.”
6. Responding to further questions from Jordan, Clinton said she still
believes the anti-Muslim YouTube video did play some role in fueling
the attacks.
“I believe to this day the video played a role,” the former secretary
of state told the panel.
“I have been consistent about speaking out about the video from the
very first day,” Clinton continued. “I think it is important to look at
the totality of what is going on.”
Jordan, though, said statements Clinton made in private differ.
“Privately your story was much different than your public one,” he
said. “The video may have impacted other places but in Benghazi it
didn’t.”
Responding to Republicans’ questions, Democrats on the panel argued
their colleagues across the aisle attempted to push an inaccurate
narrative of the events leading up to and during the attacks.
“I think the core theory is this: that you deliberately interfered with
security in Benghazi and that resulted in people dying,” Schiff told
Clinton. “Notwithstanding how many investigations we’ve had that have
found absolutely no merit to that, that is the impression they wish to
give.”
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